INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Mike Pence is campaigning on the idea that Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump would run a more ethical administration than Hillary Clinton.

The Republican vice presidential nominee told North Carolina supporters Tuesday that the Wikileaks hack of John Podesta’s emails confirms “an avalanche of scandals” and “pay-to-play politics” in Clinton’s world.

Trump has proposed barring anyone from federal lobbying activity within five years after leaving a congressional seat, a congressional member’s staff or an executive branch post.

Trump also added a call for term limits on members of Congress. Pence didn’t discuss that detail in North Carolina. He was a House member for 12 years.

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