Starting July 1 permit less carry goes into law

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Starting July 1 permit less carry goes into law. The law was passed by the state legislature earlier this year and will allow all Hoosiers to carry a handgun without a license

It’s a law that has many law enforcement agencies and police organizations a little worried.

“I think that people will think it is just free-for-all, and that anyone can carry, and that there will not be a consequence to that, and that is just not the case,” said IMPD Chief Randal Taylor to WISH-TV. “There are still 15 categories that will preclude you from carrying a weapon.”

Those categories apply if you are or ever have been:

– Convicted of a felony.

– Convicted of a crime of domestic violence within five years (Indiana Code35-31.5-2-78).

– Convicted of domestic violence-battery (Indiana Code 35-42-2-1.3).

– Convicted of stalking (Indiana Code 35-45-10-5).

– Fugitive from justice.

– Younger than 18, unless hunting or participating in a shooting competition or safety course, or traveling to or from hunting or participating in a shooting competition or safety course (Indiana Code 35-47-10).

– Protective order for domestic violence or family violence (Indiana Code 34-26-5).

– Under indictment for a felony.

– Younger than 23 with juvie adjudication for Indiana Code 35-47-4-5, possession by a serious violent felon.

– Dishonorably discharged from the military.

– Adjudicated dangerous under the red flag law (Indiana Code 35-47-14-6).

– Adjudicated a mental defective.

– Alien unlawfully in the United States.

– Committed to a mental institution.

– Renounced U.S. citizenship per 8 U.S. Code §1481.

Even with these categories, Taylor is sticking by his stance that the law will make it more difficult for police officers to keep track of who can and can’t be in possession of a gun, especially if they come across someone carrying a gun during a traffic stop.

“There are a number of (categories) that we will not have direct access to right at that time,” Taylor said. “Things like being dishonorably discharged from the military.”

Doug Carter, superintendent of Indiana State Police, had told Indiana lawmakers considering the law earlier this year that more than 10,000 applications for carry permits were denied in 2021 because they were not legally allowed to carry a gun.

Taylor agrees that without the state permit system, he expects more people who shouldn’t be carrying guns to have them, which could lead to a surge in crime.

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  1. IMPD Chief Randal Taylor is an appointee of Indianapolis Mayor Joe Hogsett, a Democrat. Taylor will carry his boss’ party line and be anti-gun and anti-#2A, so his statements can be safely ignored as partisan garbage.

    The assertion that crime will increase because criminals will suddenly start carrying guns (as if they weren’t already doing it illegally – THEY ARE CRIMINALS) is one of the dumbest positions ever.

  2. Today, July 1, 2022, Indiana becomes the 26th state in the union that allows its proper citizens to carry handguns solely on the 2nd amendment of the Constitution.

    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Constitutional carry, as it has been called, is the law of the land in the still quite free state of Indiana.

    Parsing the words of the 2A are below.

    Some talk about the collective rights theory and twisting the meaning of “well regulated Militia,” found in the prefatory clause.

    Now before addressing the meaning of “well regulated,” digress on several points as it should be pointed out that the prefatory clause of the protected right is the subordinate or dependent clause and does not define or limit the right. A right that can only be exercised by natural persons; government cannot exercise rights, not being a natural person, governments exercise powers only. The dependent clause offers one reason the right is enumerated, not the reason.

    Additionally, note that the right is assumed; the Amendment does not say that we have the right after adoption of the amendment. The amendment is in fact a statement wholly restricting the government (at any level) from any authority to restrict the right to keep and bear arms. This is naturally consistent with the preamble to the Bill of Rights which states its’ purpose of limiting the power of government.

    So, define the meaning of “well regulated.”
    Understanding what the militia is, is not too difficult, really. One of our founders, Tenche Coxe, in writing about the militia and the RKBA, wrote this in a 1788 Pennsylvania newspaper article:

    “Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American…the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”

    Now the founders had just thrown off a government and set up a government of sovereign states consisting of sovereign citizens. The meaning of “regulate” as used by our founders not only in the Second Amendment, but even in the Commerce clause (Art I Section 8 Clause 3) did not ever mean “to control,” as it is used now and as it has been for some time. But even before the 20th century, the usage of the word “regulate” changed from its true meaning as understood by the founders to its current usage as the federal government sought increased power.

    At dictionary.com one can find two meanings that in 1787 were that word’s primary meanings:

    1) To adjust so as to ensure accuracy of operation, and
    2) To put in good order.

    One might colloquially simply apply the phrase, “to make regular,” which could be used for either definition and be correctly applied to either the Commerce Clause or the Second Amendment.

    Essentially, a “well regulated” militia is a body, composed of the people suitably armed and trained effectively in the mission of a militia. That well regulated militia is not the National Guard. The National Guard is a professional body and since 1906 affiliated with the Federal Government. The real militia mentioned in the Second Amendment is the unorganized militia.

    In short: any militia; composed of ordinary people, that trains to shoot well and function effectively in support of liberty; in defense of their state; or in opposition to tyranny, is a well regulated militia as our founders understood it.

  3. Stocks has given us a master class in LIBERTY.

    The two law enforcement officers who have swore a sacred oath to protect and defend the US Constitution should take heed. With constitutional carry in effect the only people who might suffer ill are the criminals who are already carrying firearms ILLEGALLY. If you are carrying a firearm and are a prohibited person this new law does not make it okey-dokey for you to carry. IF yo don;t know if you are prohibited the list is on the article. It is still illegal and you are still a criminal. The Indy police chief is a failure. Just look at the crime news out of Indy. He is all worried about the law-abiding but ignores the criminals wondering around committing mayhem and murder.

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